All about my experience...bad experience actually..

I'm working as a teacher so that's means I have a big responsibility to my students. So when our students not interested to listen our lecture or break the rules it makes us angry.So they will tell everything to their parents about it.Tomorrow just waiting parents come and attack us..is it fair for person like us(teacher) ..give u'r opinion dude..

My husband is a dicipline teacher for one great primary school..sorry I cannot say which school.Everyday when he come back from school...always complaining about his students behaviour.Everday must have student missing from class...well you want to know where they all going? Of coz the CC.They worst is fighting with each other.The funny is....they came from a rich family but their behaviour like a low standard people.
I pity to all the teachers because sometimes they cannot do anything towards them...you know why..their parents will blame the teachers and even threaten to report to the PPD or newspaper.
I think in the future all the teachers must learn taekwondo or silat....

Wah...Mamzie i think u'r english better then me..Bravo..bravo....

No..I'm still learning here.

i'm tuition teacher..
i don't have experience like that..
bcoz, all my student got a same problem..
and all their parents give me to 'rotan' them..
they really know their son/daughter..
i hope i can guide and teach them to get success in their study

Your are so......lucky then.....and how many 'rotan' do have now.

no 'rotan' in my teaching class..i use psychology to teach them..what can i do if i'm hot is 'patient.. very tough to teach..if don't believe me, u ask syanaz..huhu

But Azfa...sometime we should use "sepaklogi"also to our students...
Certain students sooooo rude sometime ma..

I agree with syanaz..."sepaklogi"is a good method for problem students.

sepaklogi? what's that?1st time i heard..

Azfa..sepak le...heheeheheh

hehehe... "sepaklogi" may be what u wish for when ur dealing with delinquents... but they are still young, tend to be rash and irrational sometimes... the best way i think is azfa's "be patient" technique.. after all these rude students were trusted to you by their parents, hoping that the teachers can help them become a good person that one day can be an asset to this country.

hahahha..'sepak'..ic2..no la..can't do like that..
give them our care, our love, our hope, sure they'll from that..maybe not now, but who's know, maybe 1 day, they'll understand

so true... someday they will understand why u all (especially teachers) sacrifice so much for them..

i think i also want to join here.I want to improve my english.....so i hope you all can teach me if i wrong.

MATAHARI wrote:

i think i also want to join here.I want to improve my english.....so i hope you all can teach me if i wrong.

yeah, take a place matahari..
we learn from mistakes..

yeah matahari... welcome... fyi there are many good souls here that can teach u abt english.. some of them are teachers if im correct.. we all here want to improve our english, aint it fellas..

Matahari....i think damahum can be u'r tutor...our tutor too....

wah.. me, a tutor... that an interesting thought... still a student myself though.. hehehe... but then, sharing info n knowledge abt this language is a good way to improve it

well damahum...pls don't shy...i think you must have a lots of idea,how we can improve our english here...and the goo thing is...its free for everyone,if they go other place... they have to pay for the english course.

yeah i know that it is easier for everyone to improve their english here... there are many ways that can help one improve their english but for me, i just read books... lots of them... choose whatever kind of book that suit u the most, i stick with fictional material...

for me, playing video games also can improve our english. let say you play the game like family feud on your console, besides the wide knowledge needed you also need to understand that question. thus your english improved unconciously. am i correct???

speaking of games, playing role playing games such as final fantasy series can also improve ur english dramatically... games like that full of puzzles and the likes that player have to solve in order to advance the game...

talking about games again... you guys are really gamesholic...hahaha

mamzie, we are still young... so it is typical for us young'uns to be a 'gamesholic'... hehehe

yeah its true damahum. yesterday i just made my father mad at me just because of game. i played dtx mania, one of the game related to music at 1.00 am with the speakers turned on. for youngster like damahum and i its normal. maybe i interrupt my father's sweet drean i guess....

wah... if u turned the volume up during 1 am in the morning, no wonder ur papa snapped... sheesh... try living alone for a change, the u know how lonely it fells, nobody gonna scream at u even if u blew up ur roof.... but then, u'll be lonely...

no wonder your father get mad....well my children also like that before n i also join them....for me its fun when we play together. :)

ahhh... what would ur children think if u started hanging out with them... u play all their games with them... for once i think ur children maybe speechless........

we like buddies when we play games together....and of coz I'm the boss...so they must respect me....oh yeah

what kind of games that your family often to play???

Need for speed undergroud 2 and punisher and Tam1942.....

mamzie i can accept that u play need foe speed underground 2, but Punisher, isnt that a tad bit extreme??!! i mean all that violence n gore... wish my parents like to play video games with me...

want to join! want to join!! as i'm in Japan, i could feel how rapid and terrible my english level is dropping! help me!! u can see how 'japanized' my english is!

well back to the topic, i would like to share my experience as a lecturer (teacher also) at a local univ. about 60-70% of students in my class was chinese. (we know that there are higher/special allocations for malay at local universities, yes maybe in reality there are, but sadly we cannot find that patern in engineering or science faculties. )

what i want to share here, the chinese stndts behavior compared to the rest (malay). they are excellent, of course, coz they cannot easily enter local univ, and with 60-70% existence, they dominate the class about 90%. they positively gaining the knowledge, while the 'selected' malay stdnts.. in their group at the back corner, still searching which page i was refering but with mouth shut. never dare to ask! :evil:

that's one thing. another thing is.. when graduated and get job, normally their parents will send email to the teacher, expressing their gratitude. sometimes the student himself send email, and some student even wish to keep in touch with the teacher. i love that kind of student, no matter of their race, but i'm sad coz it's hard to have such malay student. :(

and the question here.. how does this phenomena happen? maybe u teachers can answer me. maybe some of u also have experience teaching non-malay stdnt... how is the phenomena at primary or secondary school?

thanx najz...for the corrections...
yes...sometimes i'm a little bit extreme....I just want to know what the childrens are palaying...

....... Everyday when he came back from school... he always complaining about his students behavior. Everyday there must be at least a student that is absent... Well do you want to know where they were going? Of course to the C.C. The worst is fighting with each other.....

damahum wrote:

....... Everyday when he came back from school... he always complaining about his students behavior. Everyday there must be at least a student that is absent... Well do you want to know where they were going? Of course to the C.C. The worst is fighting with each other.....

corrections please...

and i hope nobody mad at me on correcting here ;)

and i hope if you want to enhance your english, please do not use any of short form;
i.e COZ, C.C which is Cyber Cafe etc. You have to spell it in full so that it will not effect the sentence.

oh...sorry...
I'm not angry with you....how about you damahum...

right now im trying to figure out on how to correct that paragraph.... najz can u gimme some tips

where is najz?.....

busy, i guess...

asalamualaikum guys i thinks all teens are like that,so we as an older/parents/teacher must also understand them as well,my daughter once tell me mummy remaja sekarang harus di dengar not only lihat.it means that we only want them to follow us without knowing whats their prob .
parents / teacher lets do ,care and give them a chance to voice up wat they really want,make them understand what going on around them and make them understand what we want from them,our children are not stupid it just that they dont really know the real life .so give them a chance dont punish they for what they think and says .

FizaUK wrote:

mamito wrote:

asalamualaikum guys i thinks all teens are like that,so we as an older/parents/teacher must also understand them as well,my daughter once tell me mummy remaja sekarang harus di dengar not only lihat.it means that we only want them to follow us without knowing whats their prob .
parents / teacher lets do ,care and give them a chance to voice up wat they really want,make them understand what going on around them and make them understand what we want from them,our children are not stupid it just that they dont really know the real life .so give them a chance dont punish they for what they think and says .

A'kum..yes I agreed with what you said. In UK ..that is how the teachers & parents do to the childrens from age toddler up to teenagers. We need to listen to their opinions & views or problems that they've been hold in for too long.
Over here social behaviour also play a major problems. Now alot of parents (muslim community)prefer to send their kids to islamic school instead to state school but. but that's life over here.My opinion is not the school is the problem is the parents! They have to learn to listen, get involved with the childrens school homework, communications and more important is consistent decipline! ;) The behaviour of our children is a reflection from our behaviour :)

that is the truth, SHOUTED

damahum wrote:

FizaUK wrote:

mamito wrote:

asalamualaikum guys i thinks all teens are like that,so we as an older/parents/teacher must also understand them as well,my daughter once tell me mummy remaja sekarang harus di dengar not only lihat.it means that we only want them to follow us without knowing whats their prob .
parents / teacher lets do ,care and give them a chance to voice up wat they really want,make them understand what going on around them and make them understand what we want from them,our children are not stupid it just that they dont really know the real life .so give them a chance dont punish they for what they think and says .

A'kum..yes I agreed with what you said. In UK ..that is how the teachers & parents do to the childrens from age toddler up to teenagers. We need to listen to their opinions & views or problems that they've been hold in for too long.
Over here social behaviour also play a major problems. Now alot of parents (muslim community)prefer to send their kids to islamic school instead to state school but. but that's life over here.My opinion is not the school is the problem is the parents! They have to learn to listen, get involved with the childrens school homework, communications and more important is consistent decipline! ;) The behaviour of our children is a reflection from our behaviour :)

that is the truth, SHOUTED

Salams everyone, this is a great topic to dig ur teeth into.

it's not easy being a parent nor the teacher these days. what more the students are not like during those yesteryears. I guess technology has been the part of it. Now everyone is intune to what's going on ... not just the elders but also the younger ones. I totally agree that we have to listen to our children but that does not mean that we just listen without analysing what our children says. Is not that we don't trust what they say but as an adult we have the capacity to judge and be more analytical. we also must make a stand for what we know is right.

Simultaneously, as parents we to must make an effort tounderstand those in the teaching profession. they're are teaching probably an average of 30 students so tell me how are you to deal with 30 antics of students compared to a parent who probably have to deal with the average of 3-4 kids. So parents be a bit sensible. Another thought, jts because your career is better then the teacher does not mean you are superior than the teacher who teaches your kids in school... so everyone respect each other yeah!!!

i would blame the system. Why on earth that government allowed the 'rotan' not to be use anymore? It was a mistake, a big one. You can see the level of disciplin drop now. Who else we should blame if not the system?

halytobe wrote:

i would blame the system. Why on earth that government allowed the 'rotan' not to be use anymore? It was a mistake, a big one. You can see the level of disciplin drop now. Who else we should blame if not the system?

blame it on human rights.... whatever activist around and so forth.. they are the culprit